You are here

Women ‘too fat’ to model: Katie Green and Traci Moslenko

Readers brought these two examples to my attention.

Wonderbra finds Katie Green too fat to model bras

Katie Green Katie Green Katie Green Katie Green Katie Green Katie Green

Katie Green Katie Green Katie Green Katie Green

To see this video you must have flash installed and javascript turned on.

Download video

To see this video you must have flash installed and javascript turned on.

Download video

Katie Green won an audition to model bras for Wonderbra, which used her on billboards with the message, “D to G, because we’re more than a handful.”  Wonderbra had her sign up with Premier Model Management, a leading modeling agency.  Premier told her to lose about 28 pounds of weight.  It is irrelevant how much Katie Green weighs because her pictures and videos, shown above, reveal a woman who is well-suited to modeling bras.  Katie was told that her size – size 12 U.K. – was unacceptable, and that she needed to be a size 8-10 U.K.  She was told that most lingerie models managed by top-rated modeling agencies were a size 8 U.K.  Incidentally, Katie happened to weigh 145 pounds at 5-foot-10.

Here is more of her ordeal.

“So I said, ‘With respect, my curves got me the Wonderbra job and brought me to you. But now you’re saying I’m too fat.’ They made it very clear they wanted me to lose two dress sizes.

“That would mean shedding two stone. I’d have been a bag of bones.

“But instead of listening to me, they just gave me dieting tips and told me I had to train at the gym every day.”

“I was banned from eating carbohydrates after 4pm and even told I couldn’t go out for a curry with my mates. I’m embarrassed to admit I started following their regime. I even started skipping dinner and fibbed to my mum that I’d eaten earlier.”

Katie lost 7lbs in just eight days and thought modelling work would flood in.

But she went on: “Every time the phone rang it wasn’t with an offer of work, it was to check on my weight loss.

“I was invited back to London by Premier. I thought, ‘Great, this must be for a new photoshoot,’ but they just wanted to MEASURE me to see how much weight I’d lost. I had to stand on scales then a tape measure came out to do all my vital statistics.”

Katie Green did the right thing and walked away.  Subsequently Katie landed a job with Ultimo, another company selling underwear.

Traci Moslenko at the Janice Dickinson show

Traci Moslenko has appeared in the Janice Dickinson modeling show.  Looking at her, it should come as no surprise that her ‘weight would be cause for concern.’

Traci Moslenko Traci Moslenko Traci Moslenko Traci Moslenko

Traci Moslenko Traci Moslenko Traci Moslenko Traci Moslenko

To see this video you must have flash installed and javascript turned on.

Download video

But Traci would be fat by whose standards?

Who are the people that find Katie Green and Traci Moslenko too fat for modeling?...

...even though Katie isn’t being considered for anything close to high-fashion modeling.

When Katie’s family contacted Premier Modeling Management for asking her to lose weight, the agency said,

“We advised Katie that commercial and lingerie models need to be an average size 10 as is requested by the market sector she wanted to model for.”

What market sector is this?  A market sector is a group of businesses selling similar goods and services and hence directly competing with each other.  So the market sector concerning Katie comprises of companies selling underwear to women in the general public.  But judging by the comments, most people, including most women, are shocked that Katie and Traci are considered too fat for modeling.

We all know the answer.  The homosexual fashion designers!  Even when it comes to modeling underwear or lingerie, the homosexuals will prefer as little deviation from their adolescent-boy-look ideal as possible.

Categories: 

Comments

you are right Erik it's unfortunate that gays have so much power in fashion. If they were not a part of the fashion world they would probably be in danger in their work, discrimination. What should they do?

Andrea: The problem isn’t power but abuse of power. Most homosexuals are not involved with the fashion industry and it isn’t that they face rampant discrimination outside the fashion industry. The relationship between anti-homosexual sentiment in the general population and discrimination against homosexuals isn’t a straightforward one. Whereas the stronger the anti-homosexual sentiment, the greater the chances of homosexuals being discriminated against, the proportion of homosexuals who remain closeted also increases, and hence the chances of people finding out who the homosexuals are and then discriminating against them decreases.

The solutions to discrimination against homosexuals are educating the public about setting aside their biases when evaluating a job applicant, specifically focusing on whether the characteristics they consider undesirable are related to job performance; and carefully worded legislation that prohibits discriminating against homosexuals if their homosexuality is unrelated to job performance while protecting religious groups from abuse and maximally upholding freedom of association.

Actually that homosexuality thing is more or less a myth... I have a few friends who are fashion designers (women and men) and they all say it is much easier to design clothes and go crazy on thinner, uniform models... It's just more practical for them but unfortunately it makes things quite impractical for models and models-to-be that aren't naturally washboard flat/straight.

I would have more respect for Katie Green if she told Wonderbra to go stuff themselves, and not give in to them and their demands for her to lose weight. It's just ridiculous that a woman with such a fabulous body should give in to pressure to change her body to something "more normal" which, I doubt a size 8 is anyway. Size 12 is fabulous. I hope she can now find the strength to be herself and the weight and size she is. She's gorgeous.

I don't get it Erik. Isn't her body a bit boyish? Isn't her body a bit masculine, including her belly button?

I look to be about the same weight as this woman, but my waist clinches in more, my breasts are fuller, and my belly button is a more oval shape, it's smaller as well.

I feel she is masculine compared to an "average" girl like me. I'm feminine but I'm probably not super-feminine. Also, her face is not really feminine either. If this woman lost weight, she would look more masculine. Why am I confused? Isn't this site about feminine women and how women farther on the feminine scale are more attractive?

I don't think you follow your own criteria.

Emily:

Regarding ALL your comments, no one is Nordic bashing. Everyone on here probably agrees that Nordics are among the most attractive. You will easily find tons of attractive Nordics, where it is true that you won't with other ethnic groups. But look at everyone's comments. Has anyone called Nordics pre-pubescent dwarfs, etc? Not in a while. Maybe some bashed earlier on, but these are diff. people. I have never heard Peter or Petite say one bad thing about a Nordic. So what's the deal?

Just reading huggins' first few sentences on Katie made it obvious that she was a girl. I notice how women who are obsessed with fashion always miss the boat on understanding anything of what is truly attractive in females and prove the point further on how totally off the scope the fashion world is with feminine beauty.

Katie Green doesn't have to lose a pound. She looks great at the weight she is and if you do a BMI check on her she is 100% healthy at 5' 10. As a man, I don't give a damn about a women "toned up". I care about women with hips, butt, breasts, etc... You know, the qualities only women not men possess. Any 100% heterosexual man who looks at Katie wouldn't say she would have to lose a pound except for homosexuals who fear femininity and women who are too obsessed with the sickness of the fashion industry.

Funny too. If you take Katie's stats and subtract 28 pounds, that puts her BMI very underweight. Just like the homosexuals like it.

Just reading huggins' first few sentences on Katie made it obvious that she was a girl. I notice how women who are obsessed with fashion always miss the boat on understanding anything of what is truly attractive in females and prove the point further on how totally off the scope the fashion world is with feminine beauty.

Katie Green doesn't have to lose a pound. She looks great at the weight she is and if you do a BMI check on her she is 100% healthy at 5' 10. As a man, I don't give a damn about a women "toned up". I care about women with hips, butt, breasts, etc... You know, the qualities only women not men posses. Any 100% heterosexual man who looks at Katie wouldn't say she would have to lose a pound except for homosexuals who fear femininity and women who are too obsessed with the sickness of the fashion industry.

Funny too. If you take Katie's stats and subtract 28 pounds, that puts her BMI very underweight. Just like the homosexuals like it.

Why do you keep insisting that gay designers are to blame for this? Not all designers are gay, and not all designers are male. Yes it is ridiculous that high-fashion models have to be skinny and masculine by default, and I believe that the fashion world should employ models of all shapes and sizes to model clothes of all shapes and sizes. But masculine models have only been popular since women started to wear more androgynous clothing in the '60s. High fashion has little to do with sexuality of models, it's about showing off outfits, and it has nothing to do with the gender and sexuality of the designer. And why, again, insist on stating that the high-fashion models look like YOUNG boys? "Gay designers want everyone to look like young boys." It seems to me like you're confusing being gay with being a paedophile, to be frank.

Katie Green cant model underwear because her inner thighs are gross...
look at those lumps of fat between her legs...
her waistline is not great either...
and her face is masculine...

the other girl is cute, but like an above poster said...shes not model thin or voluptuous/feminine either...theres no market for her, shes just a pretty girl like many walking down the street, nothing unique about her.

Both girls need to simply tone up, not lose weight. A fit girl looks awesome IMHO and they generally weigh more because of the added muscle. I think both are cute but the face will only get you halfway there in modeling.

Katie definitely needs to lose weight. Don´t forget we´re talkin about fashion industry, not any hillbilly peagant.
Her inner thighs are flabby and just gross.
I think it´s just ridiculous that she actually said losing the weight would make her look like a bag of bones. Honestly, a dress size 8/10 is nowhere near bony! You begin to look bony when you´re down to dress size 2 or 0. Still then, girls at her height look beutiful and elegant.
I hate how people get used to the standards of our fat society

Are they feminine or just average?

to Oksana no she doesn't need to lose weight she looks great, and it's pathetic how YOU are brainwashed by the industry's ideals of beauty. There is healthy thin and then there is sickly thin. Size 12 is reasonable not fat. She said 12 NOT 16 or 18 or 20! And she looks great.

Not everybody is either thin or fat, there is a happy medium. And she is healthy slim. She WOULD be anorexic if she became the weight they wanted at her height it's not healthy or necessary. Yes some ppl look good as a size 10 or 8 but it doesn't work for everybody and NOBODY should have to starve themselves to keep any damn job! If the standards of the designers were realistic you wouldn't see models literally falling down dead after their show! Nor would you see such anorexia and suffering!

Not everyone is naturally VERY THIN TO EMACATION POINT- THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T BE HEALTHY THIN. SIZE 12 IS NORMAL. IT'S NOT SUPER THIN BUT IT'S NORMAL HEALTHY THIN. ABOVE THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR A MODEL BUT NOT FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON.

Size 10 or 8 is only healthy if it's workable for the person without starving themselves and is healthy and consistent with their height. She looks toned and slim not flabby! Get real and get a life! You're the one who needs to wake up.

I find the comment about homosexuals in the fashion industry very ignorant...am I the only one that feels this way? It's a societal thing; you can't blame someones sexuality in my opinion. In fact, almost all of the WOMEN in the fashion have the exact same standards....

Click here to post a new comment