link | Submitted by Whipped Honey on Sun, 10/21/2007 - 14:15.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH BEING ATTRACTED TO TEENAGED BOYS?
Sexual attraction to postpubescents is biologically and psychologically NORMAL. Where the law draws the line has no effect on nature. Sex between adults and teenagers became a taboo only in the twentieth century, and primarily in the most technologized countries.
Throughout human history until very recently, postpubescents were considered adults. Postpubescents entered the work force as farm workers, laborers, and apprentices in the trades and crafts. Historically the average age of brides was 13-17 and most marriages were between adult men and teenaged girls.
The industrial revolution changed everything. The explosion of jobs not dependent on higher physical strength made it possible, for the first time in world history, for huge numbers of women to support themselves financially without inheritances or land ownership or going straight from dependence on their fathers to dependence on their husbands. Increasing technological sophistication required lengthier training to enter the work force and elongated financial, educational, social and legal childhood, but biological childhood still ended at 12 to 14.
Prior to the invention of paternity tests, the only way a man could be certain a child was his was if the mother had never had sex with anyone else, and ensuring a bride's virginity and a wife's fidelity was relatively easy when females were married in their early teens and financially helpless to go anywhere or do anything without their husbands' permission. In the new world of longer education, later marriages and freer women, parents sought to control their daughters' virginity by passing age of consent laws to criminalize sex with postpubescent unmarried girls, and so a man who had sex with teenaged girls was suddenly redefined as a pervert. Only much later, when American law began shedding gender discrimination, were age of consent laws expanded to include boys.
"It is not just gay fashion designers but homosexual and bisexual men in general that are often attracted to underage boys, much more often than heterosexual men are attracted to underage girls."
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Most of the marriages in world history were between adult men and underaged girls; they just didn't call them underaged yet. Pretending that attraction to teenagers is much more common in homosexual men than in heterosexual men is antihistorical and ludicrous.
There is massive evidence from history (most homosexuality in history has been in a pederastic context), child molesting priests (great majority go after boys),
According to Father Donald Cozzens, an author, psychologist, and Catholic seminary president, 50% of Roman Catholic priests have a homosexual orientation, so it is inevitable that the great majority of Catholic priest pedophiles will go after boys. Protestant ministers are allowed to become husbands and fathers, and so Protestant ministers are far more likely to be heterosexual than Catholic priests are, so it is inevitable that the great majority of Protestant minister pedophiles go after girls. You've proved nothing.
The Catholic priesthood's celibacy vow provides a cover-up for pedophiles who need to hide their sexual activities and explain why they don't have sex with adults, which is why gay Catholic priests have a higher rate of pedophilia than either gay men in general or Protestant ministers in general.
"fraternal birth order evidence showing that male homosexual pedophiles and male homosexuals attracted to adult men belong to the same broad sexual orientation group,"
All that proves, if it is true, is that male homosexuals have similar fraternal birth order patterns regardless of whether they are pedophiles or non-pedophiles. It doesn't prove that the homosexual pedophiles are a greater percentage of all homosexual men than the heterosexual pedophiles are of all heterosexual men.
evidence from cluster analysis showing a clear association between same-sex attraction and sexual interest in children, etc.
I've already disproved all your other "evidence", so if you want me to take seriously this "cluster analysis", explain it here. I'm not going to read the literature; the burden of proof is on you.
Yes, most successful fashion designers are homosexuals. Erik, your fantasy of a fashion industry run by heterosexual men is like a basketball league full of white guys. Market dominance through greater talent is not a monopoly; it's simply the law of supply and demand. Perhaps the particular artistic talent required for designing women's clothes is incompatible with heterosexual male psychology.
Yes, most homosexual fashion designers are attracted to teenaged boys because most adult men of any sexual orientation are attracted to teenagers. So? Hell, I'm sometimes attracted to late adolescent boys, but I don't sleep with them.
Yes, some homosexual fashion designers want the female models to look somewhat like teenaged boys. So? You can buy the clothes without admiring the models. Why do you care?
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH BEING ATTRACTED TO TEENAGED BOYS?
Sexual attraction to postpubescents is biologically and psychologically NORMAL. Where the law draws the line has no effect on nature. Sex between adults and teenagers became a taboo only in the twentieth century, and primarily in the most technologized countries.
Throughout human history until very recently, postpubescents were considered adults. Postpubescents entered the work force as farm workers, laborers, and apprentices in the trades and crafts. Historically the average age of brides was 13-17 and most marriages were between adult men and teenaged girls.
The industrial revolution changed everything. The explosion of jobs not dependent on higher physical strength made it possible, for the first time in world history, for huge numbers of women to support themselves financially without inheritances or land ownership or going straight from dependence on their fathers to dependence on their husbands. Increasing technological sophistication required lengthier training to enter the work force and elongated financial, educational, social and legal childhood, but biological childhood still ended at 12 to 14.
Prior to the invention of paternity tests, the only way a man could be certain a child was his was if the mother had never had sex with anyone else, and ensuring a bride's virginity and a wife's fidelity was relatively easy when females were married in their early teens and financially helpless to go anywhere or do anything without their husbands' permission. In the new world of longer education, later marriages and freer women, parents sought to control their daughters' virginity by passing age of consent laws to criminalize sex with postpubescent unmarried girls, and so a man who had sex with teenaged girls was suddenly redefined as a pervert. Only much later, when American law began shedding gender discrimination, were age of consent laws expanded to include boys.
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Most of the marriages in world history were between adult men and underaged girls; they just didn't call them underaged yet. Pretending that attraction to teenagers is much more common in homosexual men than in heterosexual men is antihistorical and ludicrous.
According to Father Donald Cozzens, an author, psychologist, and Catholic seminary president, 50% of Roman Catholic priests have a homosexual orientation, so it is inevitable that the great majority of Catholic priest pedophiles will go after boys. Protestant ministers are allowed to become husbands and fathers, and so Protestant ministers are far more likely to be heterosexual than Catholic priests are, so it is inevitable that the great majority of Protestant minister pedophiles go after girls. You've proved nothing.
The Catholic priesthood's celibacy vow provides a cover-up for pedophiles who need to hide their sexual activities and explain why they don't have sex with adults, which is why gay Catholic priests have a higher rate of pedophilia than either gay men in general or Protestant ministers in general.
All that proves, if it is true, is that male homosexuals have similar fraternal birth order patterns regardless of whether they are pedophiles or non-pedophiles. It doesn't prove that the homosexual pedophiles are a greater percentage of all homosexual men than the heterosexual pedophiles are of all heterosexual men.
I've already disproved all your other "evidence", so if you want me to take seriously this "cluster analysis", explain it here. I'm not going to read the literature; the burden of proof is on you.
Yes, most successful fashion designers are homosexuals. Erik, your fantasy of a fashion industry run by heterosexual men is like a basketball league full of white guys. Market dominance through greater talent is not a monopoly; it's simply the law of supply and demand. Perhaps the particular artistic talent required for designing women's clothes is incompatible with heterosexual male psychology.
Yes, most homosexual fashion designers are attracted to teenaged boys because most adult men of any sexual orientation are attracted to teenagers. So? Hell, I'm sometimes attracted to late adolescent boys, but I don't sleep with them.
Yes, some homosexual fashion designers want the female models to look somewhat like teenaged boys. So? You can buy the clothes without admiring the models. Why do you care?
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