Musings on setting up alternative fashion industries

On the “solutions page,” I have talked about the shape that an alternative fashion industry will take.  This industry will use models within a very narrow range of physique variation, and these women will be feminine and very attractive.  This will ensure that their looks convey a high level of exclusivity, which will facilitate marketing expensive designer clothing to the elite.  These models will have a trickle-down effect that will lead to an across-the-board increase in the prominence of feminine beauties, which is the major goal of this site.

The problem with this approach is that women who are offended by the skinny fashion model problem, especially feminists, will not necessarily be pleased with seeing very attractive women with looks that are even harder to acquire being paraded on the runway.  So the dilemma for feminist types would be which of the two industries to patronize?  Which is worse for women?  One industry is worse for women’s health as it relates to eating behaviors and body fat levels, the other is worse for women’s self-esteem, and both “objectify” women in different ways.  Feminists have to pick one industry; they can’t be going around naked; they need clothes.  Some are bound to patronize the gay-dominated fashion industry, but not if this can be helped.

Clothing items such as undergarments/lingerie are not relevant to social gatherings.  And, the masses of women cannot afford expensive clothes anyway.  So how about a third fashion industry?  Let this industry cater to clothing items not important to social gatherings and outer wear for upper middle class and lower socioeconomic groups. 

The models used by this industry will range from ordinary looking to mildly pleasant and be physically diverse.  The diversity will need to exclude obese women, ultra skinny women or women with other abnormal looks in accordance with a basic marketing principle...do not disturb potential customers.  Since a major impetus behind this alternative will be to undermine the homosexual-dominated fashion industry, its models could be skinny or masculine, but not skinny and masculine, i.e., they should not look like adolescent boys.  This should not be construed as the industry being against girls/young women who approach the looks of adolescent boys, but in terms of the gay-dominated fashion industry typically using female models who resemble adolescent boys, making it unnecessary to duplicate the effort.

The ordinary women alternative will help undermine the unhealthful behaviors and self-esteem problems prompted by the gay-dominated fashion industry as well as the self-esteem problems resulting from the feminine beauty alternative, while simultaneously making the decision-making process easy for feminists. 

Whereas expensive designer clothing has high prestige, very few people can afford them.  The bulk of the dollar value of sales comprises of regular clothing items.  Hence, the ordinary women alternative will have great potential to undermine the gay-dominated fashion industry.  On the other hand, lack of prestige hurts sales.  People would prefer clothes bearing a designer logo than a no-name company’s even if the product is otherwise comparable.  This problem can be ameliorated to some extent. 

If the profits of the ordinary women alternative go toward improving the women’s rights situation around the globe, then a number of women who would ordinarily not purchase its products will do so.  Putting profits to such use will generally please women more than using profits to promote feminine beauty, the goal of the feminine beauty alternative, or funding AIDS research/treatment and other homosexuality-related causes, the “charitable work” of the gay-dominated fashion industry.  One can even imagine some rich/high-profile women endorsing the industry and giving it a boost.  If prominent women can be made to uselessly promote Eve Ensler’s Vagina Monologues to reduce violence toward women, then famous women could surely be made to endorse something a lot saner.

So, the current situation will be greatly improved upon by the existence of three fashion industries: the gay-dominated one, a feminine beauty version and an ordinary women version.  The nuances of the trinity will have to be worked out and other steps could be taken to improve the appeal of the ordinary women alternative as in manufacturing the clothes in First World nations, thereby avoiding outsourcing of labor, but this shall be a topic for later discussion.

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LOL! This is the most delusional post you have ever written. You are so pathetically naive! Models are not that important believe me. It would be better if you could come up with a vision that is somewhat grounded in reality but you are a body nazi so you can't see that what you are saying is ridiculous and that no one will entertain your nutty delusions.

Danielle: What do you mean models are not that important? Whatever importance they have, they are the main variables being addressed. I am assuming that the alternatives will be comparable with respect to quality of designs/creativity.

Models are not important because they are not the minds behind the creation and the development of high fashion merchandise. They are not stylists, designers, marketers, photographers or financial backers. They provide the canvas that these other people present their ideas on. Your "alternative fashion industry" idea is ridiculous because the models are not important enough to have an entire industry built around them. If you observed the industry and models beyond a superficial level you will see that they are disposable. Models come and go every season. A model can walk for Valentino for one season and then two seasons later her biggest show is Baby Phat.

Everyone blames Miuccia Prada for introducing the emaciated girls after the supermodel era was waning so you may go after her next. You probably won't because you are not interested in model health or female self esteem. You are interested in distancing yourself from gay men by demonizing them. You are homophobic and delusional and you have a laughable and extremely shallow view of feminists and others that don't fit your "lifetime-exclusive heterosexual" mold. Is that lifetime exclusive term something you made up to convince yourself that your fantasies of screwing men meant nothing because you never acted on them?

You're lame and this alternative industry thing is never going to happen.

Danielle: Individual models come and go every season, but the central tendency of their looks persists much longer. I have assumed that the alternatives will be comparable with respect to quality of designs. I haven’t argued that entire industries will be built around the models; just emphasized what kind of models the alternatives will have. I admit the ideas are a long shot, but they are not impossible to achieve.

Arguing that someone portraying unflattering [and true] correlates of homosexuality is repressing homosexual urges in himself is an old ploy that should have died with Freud, and a sign that you have no valid counter arguments.

Prada is the one to blame? If she initiated it, why did the others copy her in droves unless they liked it? The homosexuals in the industry will naturally provide a thousand useless leads, some examples of which were addressed in a questionnaire following a brief educational video.

Erm... have you ever walked into a k-mart? or a Marshall's store???

Many companies use average looking women (on the thin side of course ,it just photographs better) to market their non expensive clothing lines to middle and working classes.

Erik...AIDS is not a homosexual related illness, is a human illness...there are more straight people with AIDS and who are Hiv possitive than homosexuals...

Youre extremely naive and obtuse.
Why would gay fashion designers pick skinny women with sharp feautures because they are secret or unconciously pedophiles?
Gay males are greatly and mostly attractive to hyper masculine adult males.Why would they be attracted to boys who look like skinny girls or viceversa? It makes no sense.
Your wish wont be granted...u wont see a "hottie" with no chin and a flat as a pancake face anytime soon marketing beauty just because thats what gives you an erection LOL.

Adrian: People do use ordinary-looking women to model cheap clothes, but this is not part of an alternative fashion industry. By alternatives, I mean people would know that the alternatives have nothing to do with, will not be helping and undermining the homosexual-dominated business.

Male homosexuals are primarily responsible for initiating the AIDS epidemic in the First World, and in Third World nations, whereas a superficial examination might suggest that heterosexuals are predominantly infected, a closer examination reveals that most of the infected are in sub-Saharan Africa and the reasons for their malaise have to do with unhygienic medical care practices and high rates of the down-low lifestyle, anal sex and promiscuity, i.e., behavior closer to that of homosexuals and bisexuals. So, regarding HIV infection/AIDS as a homosexuality-related illness isn’t that off-base.

The age preferences of homosexual men are variable. Whereas many are attracted to very masculine adult men, there are also plenty who are attracted to underage boys and others who are attracted to males spread over a broad age range. Why? Hint: people don’t choose their sexual attractions. I haven’t been saying that gay fashion designers are secretly pedophiles. Based on their general choice of female models (in the case of male models, they couldn’t get away with it) and strong opposition to change, it is obvious that pederastic interests are common among them.

I don’t just have an empty wish about change; I am working toward it.

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