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Stephanie Naumoska: thinness not enough for high-fashion modeling

Stephanie Naumoska

Stephanie Naumoska was a contestant in the Miss Universe-Australia pageant.  Her very thin figure generated controversy.  At 5-foot-11, she reportedly weighed in at 108 pounds.  One look at her and I knew that I needed to discuss her looks, but not because of her thinness.

Some people make much of the thinness of high-fashion models.  Stephanie Naumoska, shown above, is thinner than many well-ranked high-fashion models, but what are the odds of her working as a well-ranked fashion model?  Low, even though she has the height, the thinness and is 19-years-old, i.e., not too old.  Why?  Because she looks like a very thin or anorexic woman rather than one who approaches the looks of an adolescent boy.  I searched for what kind of modeling she does, and bingo!  I ran into her profile at model mayhem, where she is soliciting modeling work.  Well-ranked fashion models don’t solicit work; they are represented by a model management agency.  Stephanie has done fashion modeling, but has not attained a respectable rank among high-fashion models.

Stephanie Naumoska is a reminder that height, thinness and youth are not enough for success at high-fashion modeling.  There has to be a level of masculinization that makes the teenage girl approach the looks of boys in their early adolescence, and the main shortcoming in the case of Stephanie Naumoska is her physique.

Other issues associated with the Stephanie Naumoska case are basically useless as far as I am concerned.  Some people would rather have a woman as thin as her banned from beauty pageants, but what is the problem if she is naturally thin?  If many contestants have a healthy bodyweight and there are some thin contestants, it is not a problem as far as affecting impressionable girls goes.

Another issue that came up was a comment by Miss Universe Australia Pageant director Deborah Miller, who said that Stephanie’s Macedonian heritage accounted for her thin build.  Some people responded by saying that there is no such thing as a Macedonian build.  However, anthropological literature that has been out of vogue for a while because of political reasons has described an ethnic group in Europe that was built slightly (slender bones, smaller muscles), more likely found in the southern parts, had dark features but faces that were European and often with fine facial features.  They have been described as Mediterranean-type Europeans.  They were not exactly the same as many of the similarly dark people in the Middle East and southern Europe today that are often lacking in European fine facial features.  Stephanie Naumoska could very well have been taken from this Mediterranean-type European ethnic group, and her 15.1 BMI (body mass index) should be considered the health-wise equivalent of a 17.1 BMI among European populations in the northern regions.

People should not assume that the same BMI cutoffs apply to all ethnic groups.  Stephanie Naumoska appears to be a reasonably healthy, naturally thin woman who eats in accordance with desire.

Here is a short video showing Stephanie as a contestant in the Miss Universe Australia pageant and some of the controversy Stephanie generated.

Stephanie Naumoska video

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Yeesh, she still looks anorexic to me. Her arms look as though all the muscle has been eaten away, as happens to starving people whether they are anorexics or famine victims. I'd like to see her lift 50 lbs.

She does visibly have some hips going on, which I agree makes her differ strikingly from the masculine fashion models. She does have a more feminine face too. I don't think she's attractive though and I don't think she looks different from typical southern europeans; she looks italian to me.

I really don't know that I believe she's healthy. I know plenty of very very thin people who are naturally like that and I have also seen eating disordered people who are BIGGER than those thin people but still visibly unhealthy. You can tell by the bone structure and the gauntness of the face, usually. Her upper arms are thinner than her lower, her hip bones look like weapons.

Also Erik- did you ever get my email? It's the same one as I listed here, and I wanted to know if you could evaluate my own femininity among other things. I'd appreciate it. I emailed you a week and a half to two weeks ago, I believe.

There is nothing natural about this woman's anorexic body. She is not thin or gracile - she is a living skeleton. There is a difference. I have a female friend who is part Macedonian and she has an hourglass figure and a healthy body with natural body fat on it.

This woman is probably suffering from some kind of hormonal disturbance or illness if she is not anorexic, and mercury poisoning (tooth fillings) is also known to make people abnormally thin. There are many possibilities, but normally thin is the only one I don't buy.

She is NOT normal, and she does not belong in the fashion industry since she could be used to promote the sick, anorexic ideal homosexuals love. Sometimes you wonder if homosexual woman-haters would prefer their models to be dead.

"Stephanie Naumoska appears to be a reasonably healthy, naturally thin woman who eats in accordance with desire."

Eh....Erik, please. A skeleton has more body fat than she does. If she eats in accordance with desire she either has strange desires or some kind of malfunction due to illness. Either way, she is on the far edge of extreme and as such isn't suitable for modeling. Dangerous rolemodels is not something I want to see.

"...ethnic group in Europe that was built slightly (slender bones, smaller muscles), more likely found in the southern parts, had dark features but faces that were European and often with fine facial features. They have been described as Mediterranean-type Europeans. They were not exactly the same as many of the similarly dark people in the Middle East and southern Europe today that are often lacking in European fine facial features. "

Erik, language like this is why people call you a white nationalist. The "dark people" who have inhabited southern Europe since the fall of the Roman Empire are European whether or not they have what you describe as the "European" features of Nordics. There has indeed been Arab and Turkish influence in southern Europe but no one but a white nationalist would look at someone like Antonio Banderas, who's family has been in southern Spain as long as anyone can remember, and intimate that he's not a European because he lacks Nordic features.

By the way, this chick is definitely anorexic and looks as though she would break in half if I took her home for sexy time.

Natasha: I have replied to your email. It takes me a long time to reply, especially if answering them needs a lot of my time.

Emily: Some people are naturally very thin, not necessarily due to disease and are overall as healthy as normal people. Stephanie Naumoska could very well be one such person. Not all Macedonians have a similar build, and some are bound to be extremely obese, but the argument about Mediterranean-type Europeans’ more slender build, on average, was necessary to counter the dismissal of the Macedonian physique-type argument (incorrect terminology but based on a statistical difference).

You don’t have to concern yourself with her being any sort of role model. Her looks will be uncommon in beauty pageants. And I have already explained why fashion designers are unlikely to be very enthusiastic about her looks notwithstanding her thinness.

Even if she were a prominent high-fashion model, the correct approach to preventing some girls from trying to emulate her looks is to educate them about what most people prefer in women’s looks, not insist that women like Stephanie Naumoska not be hired as high-profile fashion models. You may say that educational approaches don’t/won’t work, but no government agency or eating disorders prevention programs have implemented the educational program that I have in mind, which is explaining what most people optimally prefer in women’s looks and why the typical high-fashion model is starkly different. You know the politically incorrect answer from reading this site.

booty man: How do you know that Stephanie is anorexic? Just because she looks anorexic doesn’t mean she is. And only ignorant people who can’t read would call me a white nationalist over any language used here. Mediterranean-type Europeans are obviously a type of Europeans or else why would I add “Europeans” to their description?

Stephanie Naumoska probably believes that says she eats healthily because Anorexia or Bulimia is also psychological and affects your mental health. Most sufferers convince themselves that they are eating perfectly healthily but when they look at the mirror they see an obese person, no matter their BMI might be dangerously low.

Anorexia and Bulimia is a very common problem amongst teenage girls, I have dealt with bouts of bulimia but it wasn't this extreme.

Geri Halliwell(Spice girls) was anorexic and denied this for years but later came out with a book about her struggle with Anorexia/Bulimia.

Stephanie is a typical anorexic girl in denial and she probably believes that she has a healthy diet. I wouldn't exactly say she is lying but I think she has convinced herself that she is not Anorexic which is typically what the sufferers always do.

Dude, have you met this woman? If not than you have no greater basis for saying she has no eating disorder than I do for saying she has one. At 19 this girl should have subcutaneous fat on her arms and shoulders (to say nothing of her thighs) but the skin around her elbow joints is shrunken because there's no fat or muscle to fill it. Naturally thin girls don't have that emaciated look. Also, at 4:17 when she mentioned eating 6 to 8 healthy meals per day she blinked. Now I know that people blink all the time but when someone looks like that and blinks when she talks about her daily eating habits I can't think she's telling the truth.

As for the "anthropological literature that has been out of vogue for a while because of political reasons", it sounds as though you are dancing around the fact that slavery and the Roman Empire brought many people from the middle east and northern africa to the mediterrenean region of Europe. Declining birthrates among the native Romans caused the newcomers to supplant them i.e. the kind of thing that makes Emily wake up in the middle of the night screaming with dry heaves. There's a link below to you and St. Lucia's brothers under the skin here in America.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=443513&page=8

"faces that were European and often with fine facial features. They have been described as Mediterranean-type Europeans."
These people are largely extinct, and in any case they are the ones you describe as European.

"They were not exactly the same as many of the similarly dark people in the Middle East and southern Europe today that are often lacking in European fine facial features. "

Why don't you label the 'dark people in southern Europe today' as European? Because they "are often lacking in European fine facial features"? They've been living on the continent of Europa for centuries and their features, fine or not, are European.

Erik, you seem to be an otherwise decent dude and the siren song of nationalism has seduced many good people throughout history. As well as many not-so-good people. But it's very hard to read this site and not see Nordic supremacy. Natalia Cruze is definitely as attractive as most of the women in your attractive women section and more attractive than at least half of them, yet you didn't put her there. Why? Because she's a Latina and you only find Northern European women attractive?

booty man: Your argument, “Dude, have you met this woman? If not than you have no greater basis for saying she has no eating disorder than I do for saying she has one” does not apply because I said “Just because she looks anorexic doesn’t mean she is.” In other words, I am saying she could not be anorexic, not that she is not anorexic.

I don’t understand the stormfront link featuring an article by William Pierce. This website is about looks, not the politics that stormfront is associated with. Let Pierce (now deceased) and his ilk concern themselves with whether centuries-old residence of Middle Eastern populations in Europe makes them European. The only think that this site is concerned with is whether they look European. If they don’t then I can’t say they have European looks.

A better example is the residence of Asiatic-derived people in the northernmost parts of Scandinavia. They have been there for thousands of years. They have extensively mixed with Nordic Europeans and are more Nordic European than Asiatic, on average. They usually have pale skin and often have light hair and light eyes, but their facial features are in many cases not European looking because of the Asiatic element. As far as I am concerned they are an indigenous people of Europe. Others may have a different view. But failure to accept their looks as European has no bearing on whether one has a nationalist orientation.

There is an overlap between European and non-European faces and no sharp boundary separating them. This means that some Europeans would pass as non-Europeans if they had darker features or vice versa if the non-Europeans were lighter. These are not the face shapes I am interested in. I am interested in faces that are European not just as in easily recognizable as such but also faces that will not look non-European if the person had darker features or different hair texture. These faces are disproportionately found in Northern Europeans. I realize that using “European” to describe these faces is too ambiguous, but I don’t know of convenient terminology to describe these faces. I would like to use “Aryan features” in the sense of an ideal that excludes even a large number of Northern Europeans but it is difficult to use this term without inviting trouble. None of this has anything to do with Nordic supremacy.

I have featured Natalia Cruze at this site in the context of an attractive woman, but there are some elements in her face that are not exactly what I am enthusiastic about and whether I should feature her in the attractive women section was decided by the fact that she has done porn work, and I try to minimize such women in this section. Her southern background was not an issue. And I am attracted to women from a wide variety of ethnic backgrounds.

link | Submitted by Erik on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 00:01

"I would like to use “Aryan features” in the sense of an ideal that excludes even a large number of Northern Europeans but it is difficult to use this term without inviting trouble. None of this has anything to do with Nordic supremacy"

Whats the difference?

"..whether I should feature her in the attractive women section was decided by the fact that she has done porn work, and I try to minimize such women in this section"

I'm asking you to put her in the attractive women section, not marry her. What does porn work have to do with her looks?

"And I am attracted to women from a wide variety of ethnic backgrounds."

Where are they? On the entire internet there isn't one non-Nordic or non-white woman you find attractive?

I disagree that this woman has a healthy body. She doesn't look like she's been eating very healthily at all and she would have *some* degree of fat on her body. Even when you look at the pictures of Kate Moss and Twiggy, both are very VERY thin women yet you can tell that their figures look healthy. In fact, I thin Twiggy was thinner than Stephanie but she never looked like that.

I completely agree that the modeling world is prejudiced against women with hips and behinds, but in the case to defend that belief, it's not a good idea to perpetuate unhealthy ideals, such as unnatural thinness.

miss aussie 2009

I've seen her other pictures and she looks good.

most of her pictures look good except the one on this site.

this woman is gross

her face looks ok - if someone is anorexic, it usually shows up in their face. I had a friend in high school who was as skinny as this girl, and TRUST me, this girl was NOT anorexic! Some people really are just that skinny. Not many, but some.

Erik,

I know that you are only interested about femininity and your right in that shes too feminine for the fashion industry that seems to go for androgynous,boyish or weird looks.
However your wrong in saying that shes naturally thin here.Here she's clearly anorexic.
If she was naturally thin here and not anorexic then how do you explain these photos of her where she was a healthier weight?
Also your wrong in saying that her skinniness is the result of her being of Macedonian background.That was just a poor coverup by the pageant director that you fell for.
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Pageant Photos-clearly skinnier here.
She might not be anorexic as in not eating but she has clearly gone too far with weightloss or not trying to maintain it

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Visitor,

Yes,some people are naturally skinny.Stephanie here though is not naturally skinny.
If that doesnt look like anorexia then i dont know what does.
In these older photos of her she was naturally skinny.
In the pageant photo that Erik has got up she was clearly in the realm of anorexia.

Bookworm,

That photo you posted i think is of another contestant not Stephanie Naumoska

I want to note to people that one cannot 'look anorexic.' Anorexia nervosa is a mental disorder. Most anorexics are not very thin. That's why they're anorexic.

Using 'anorexic' as a synonym for 'emaciated' is an extremely common and very irritating error.

And this Stephanie Naumoska is not, by the way, emaciated.

I can't believe she's 19, though. She doesn't look a day under 30, to me.

Lots of high fashion models have bodies like this. Anya Kazakova, a current runway favourite, practically books all of the shows, yet I wouldn't describe her physique as resembling an adolescent boy.

http://i37.tinypic.com/xemzut.jpg

The reason she books the shows over Stephanie Naumoska: long and slim legs, a good walk and a more striking/beautiful face than Stephani.

I could show you more examples.

Um, no. Anorexia as defined means a refusal to maintain a weight above normal for height/age. So these people are thin. Of course, you can have an eating disorder and still not be thin, but it's probably ED-NOS and not anorexia as defined by the DSM.

Shame, she's a very pretty woman but imo she is far too thin to look attractive. She's scary-looking. She may not have an eating disorder but her BMI is too low and she does not look healthy.

hot girls look more feminine this way. It has been proven on rating sites such as Because I'm Hot (Becauseimhot.com)

Not all models are Anorexic, sick and have body image problems. There are a small percentage of women who are the size of the "ideal" catwalkers.

If that were true, why do many Americans think that Antonio Banderas is Mexican, and specifically "mestizo"? Same goes for Penelope Cruz. It's not just W.A.S.P. Americans who think this way, either. There is some real confusion in the U.S. over who is "white", which can end with some pretty ridiculous results.

1) So what if he's a white nationalist? There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Would you be similarly opposed to Asian, Hispanic, or African nationalist sentiments?

2) Non-Nordic doesn't imply non-European, for no one tries to claim that the entirety of Europe is or ever was inhabited exclusively by Nordic peoples.

3) There are scientifically rigorous ways of classifying individuals by their phenotype, in accordance with basic anthropological principles. These methods, once well-developed and widely known in the academic world, have fallen out of vogue due to political correctness. This was the author's main assertion, and he is correct in making it.

Long arms on a woman are not masculine. They are very beautifula nd elegant dancer's arms. There's nothing uglier than short stubby arms!

I totally agree with you Emily and the other readers. She DOES look too thin, emaciated, anorexic- call it what you will. It does look unhealthy and IS unhealthy- most likely she has some kind of eating disorder. Her arms are scrawny. There is a difference between someone healthy and naturally thin - with all due respect to Eric- and someone who looks scary and unhealthy sickly thin. She could be in denial as most anorexics are. She certainly would NOT be a good role model for other women- though I get Eric's point that she wouldn't be taken as a model because her face is feminine and has some sort of hips, so even she would be considered not masculine enough for the designers- which is ironic!

I also agree with you Emily that just educating ppl about thinnes and eating disorders is NOT enough- and it makes sense to have healthy rules set in motion or standards for a reasonable minimum size of model or IBM to walk the runway like they did in Milan. And then it would not be a big catasrophe if because of that a few "naturally thin" ppl had to put on some weight to be accepted. That would be reasonable and a whole hell of a lot better and healthy example than the situation we have now!

At 19, most girls are super-skinny here. Not as skinny as her, but maybe one in 20 girls her age looks like her. They get fat in their late 20s, but in general girls are quite skinny here when they're 19.

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